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*Modify Player Magic Slowdown | *Modify Player Magic Slowdown | ||
**After extensive testing, I'm fairly certain this EP does nothing. I tested it a 5.0 multiplier, a 0.2 multiplier, an Add Value of 20, an Add Value of -20, and a Set Value of 1.0. It doesn't affect the player's casting or casting speed in any way, nor does it affect incoming magic spells in any way that I can tell. I also suspected that perhaps this had something to do with the modifying the player's abilities when a Slow Time effect was active, so I tested that, but again, no effects observed--player movement speed, casting speed, attack speed, etc.. all are unmodified even while Slow Time is active. I also discovered a mod called "Belua Sanguinare" that uses this perk entry, but as far as I can tell it's not having any effect there either. [[User:Egocarib|Egocarib]] ([[User talk:Egocarib|talk]]) 2013-08-23T22:51:43 (EDT) | **After extensive testing, I'm fairly certain this EP does nothing. I tested it a 5.0 multiplier, a 0.2 multiplier, an Add Value of 20, an Add Value of -20, and a Set Value of 1.0. It doesn't affect the player's casting or casting speed in any way, nor does it affect incoming magic spells in any way that I can tell. I also suspected that perhaps this had something to do with the modifying the player's abilities when a Slow Time effect was active, so I tested that, but again, no effects observed--player movement speed, casting speed, attack speed, etc.. all are unmodified even while Slow Time is active. I also discovered a mod called "Belua Sanguinare" that uses this perk entry, but as far as I can tell it's not having any effect there either. [[User:Egocarib|Egocarib]] ([[User talk:Egocarib|talk]]) 2013-08-23T22:51:43 (EDT) | ||
***The entry point determines the speed of time for the player while under the effect of a Slow Time effect. The magnitude of the spell determines how fast time moves for the NPCs and the world, but the player slow down is different. The default is (as far as I can tell) 0.6. If that is modified to 1.0 (by adding 0.4 or simply setting it to 1.0), the player moves at normal speed. This can also be used to make the time move faster for NPCs and slower for the PC.[[User:Lofgren|Lofgren]] ([[User talk:Lofgren|talk]]) 2016-05-18T15:22:45 (EDT) | |||
*Modify Bow Zoom | *Modify Bow Zoom | ||
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*Apply Reanimate Spell | *Apply Reanimate Spell | ||
**If a character has more than one perk with this entry point, only one spell will actually be applied to the target, as far as I can tell. Its usually the spell from the perk that they got first. Of note: this means that any mod that adds a perk using entry point this has the potential override 'Dark Souls'. This could be the case with the other 'Apply ___ Spell' entry points as well, but I haven't tested them --[[User:W Dog|W Dog]] ([[User talk:W Dog|talk]]) 2014-01-03T15:37:28 (EST) | **If a character has more than one perk with this entry point, only one spell will actually be applied to the target, as far as I can tell. Its usually the spell from the perk that they got first. Of note: this means that any mod that adds a perk using entry point this has the potential override 'Dark Souls'. This could be the case with the other 'Apply ___ Spell' entry points as well, but I haven't tested them --[[User:W Dog|W Dog]] ([[User talk:W Dog|talk]]) 2014-01-03T15:37:28 (EST) | ||
I can confirm that apply weapon swing spell, sneak spell, combat hit spell, and all entry points that apply spells can only apply ONE spell at a time. However, there is a mod that 'fixes' this in scrambled bug fix. Though, doing so will often break a perk overhaul that is designed around this. | |||
*Apply Combat Hit Spell | |||
::Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but a script attached to the associated magic effect doesn't seem to fire when used with this perk entry.--[[User:Terra Nova2|Terra Nova2]] ([[User talk:Terra Nova2|talk]]) 2015-02-22T12:31:11 (EST) | |||
:::I noticed that as well I am not sure why it does that, so unless we are both doing it wrong I think it maybe a bug. --[[User:Arocide|Arocide]] ([[User talk:Arocide|talk]]) 2015-04-30T06:39:46 (EDT) | |||
:::So far it is working fine for me. I created a Constant Effect Ability, OnEffectStart is being applied on first hit, OnHit is being fired on hits after that. The biggest problem seems to be that both with delivery type Self and delivery type Contact, both GetTargetActor() and GetCasterActor() are the same - the actor the spell is on. I was hoping to be able to refer to the actor who did the attack for caster on Contact... but... --[[User:Darkconsole|Darkconsole]] ([[User talk:Darkconsole|talk]]) 2015-07-16T21:07:43 (EDT) | |||
::It appears to work with Archery however it works in a weird way. In my testing the Spell is instantly applied to the combat target when an arrow is shot rather then when an arrow hits. This can depending on the effect cause an arrow to miss entirely when it should have hit (e.g Paralysis, Slow Effects or Applying Impulse Force). --[[User:Arocide|Arocide]] ([[User talk:Arocide|talk]]) 2015-04-30T06:39:46 (EDT) | |||
:::yeah that archery thing is a known bug in the game. If you get the paralyze talent at the top of the archery tree, the actor will fall down before the arrow even gets to it, often resulting in a miss at long distances (lolol). --[[User:Darkconsole|Darkconsole]] ([[User talk:Darkconsole|talk]]) 2015-07-16T21:07:43 (EDT) | |||
::I am also seeing evidence that the note that it doesn't work on magic effects, is wrong. It appears to be working just fine when a spell hits the target too. --[[User:Darkconsole|Darkconsole]] ([[User talk:Darkconsole|talk]]) 2015-07-17T20:17:55 (EDT) | |||
== Bottom Lable for Add Activation Perk Entry == | |||
This is currently broken in the 64 bit version of the Creation Kit. --[[User:Lisselli|Lisselli]] ([[User talk:Lisselli|talk]]) 2016-11-15T15:30:15 (EST) | |||
== Reverse engineering == | |||
I wrote a script to dump the game's Perk Entry Point information from Skyrim Classic. Should be basically the same for SSE. | |||
The way perk entry points work is that the game calls a varargs function, CalculatePerkData, which has two non-varargs arguments: the entry point to use (an enum) and the [[actor]] that owns the perk. The varargs arguments that follow are grouped into two sets: the first ''n'' varargs are the perk's normal arguments, and the ''n''th argument and the next ''u - 1'' arguments are special arguments. The precise operational definition of "special" is unknown, except that if any of them are null pointers, then the entire operation is aborted and no perk entry points are run. | |||
The value of ''u'' is determined by an unidentified enum (<code>unk0C</code> in the dump below) on the perk. In practice it's always 1 or 0, but there exists an unused enum value that maps to there being three special arguments. | |||
My current (completely untested) hypothesis is that the perk arguments influence context-specific conditions. For example, [[GetSpellCastingPerk]] returns 1 if ''some spell'' has a specific perk, but it doesn't let you specify ''which'' spell to test; it tests whatever spell happens to be relevant at the moment. For a "Mod Spell Cost" entry point, that's the spell being cast. What other entry points have a "relevant spell?" I think it's ''either'' any perk with a Spell argument, or any perk with a Spell special argument. Testing would be needed to determine which is the case. | |||
In summary: for each perk entry point below, all of the arguments listed are the "normal" argument, and when a perk is listed as having "1 args required," the last argument is ''also'' a special argument. | |||
<pre> | |||
Calculate Weapon Damage: 3 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Weapon | |||
- Target | |||
Calculate My Critical Hit Chance: 3 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Weapon | |||
- Target | |||
Calculate My Critical Hit Damage: 3 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Weapon | |||
- Target | |||
Calculate Mine Explode Chance: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Item | |||
Adjust Limb Damage: 3 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Attacker | |||
- Attacker Weapon | |||
Adjust Book Skill Points: 1 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
Modify Recovered Health: 1 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
Get Should Attack: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Attacker | |||
Modify Buy Prices: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Target | |||
Add Leveled List On Death: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 1 (maps to last 0 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Target | |||
Get Max Carry Weight: 1 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
Modify Addiction Chance: 1 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
Modify Addiction Duration: 1 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
Modify Positive Chem Duration: 1 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
Activate: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 2 (maps to last 0 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Target | |||
Ignore Running During Detection: 1 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
Ignore Broken Lock: 1 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
Modify Enemy Critical Hit Chance: 3 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Weapon | |||
- Target | |||
Modify Sneak Attack Mult: 3 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Weapon | |||
- Target | |||
Modify Max Placeable Mines: 1 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
Modify Bow Zoom: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Weapon | |||
Modify Recover Arrow Chance: 1 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
Modify Skill Use: 1 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
Modify Telekinesis Distance: 1 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
Modify Telekinesis Damage Mult: 1 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
Modify Telekinesis Damage: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Target | |||
Mod Bashing Damage: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Target | |||
Mod Power Attack Stamina: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Weapon | |||
Mod Power Attack Damage: 3 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Weapon | |||
- Target | |||
Mod Spell Magnitude: 3 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Spell | |||
- Target | |||
Mod Spell Duration: 3 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Spell | |||
- Target | |||
Mod Secondary Value Weight: 3 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Spell | |||
- Target | |||
Mod Armor Weight: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Item | |||
Mod Incoming Stagger: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Attacker | |||
Mod Target Stagger: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Target | |||
Mod Attack Damage: 3 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Weapon | |||
- Target | |||
Mod Incoming Damage: 3 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Attacker | |||
- Attacker Weapon | |||
Mod Target Damage Resistance: 3 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Weapon | |||
- Target | |||
Mod Spell Cost: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Spell | |||
Mod Percent Blocked: 1 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
Mod Shield Deflect Arrow Chance: 1 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
Mod Incoming Spell Magnitude: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Spell | |||
Mod Incoming Spell Duration: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Spell | |||
Mod Player Intimidation: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Target | |||
Mod Player Reputation: 1 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
Mod Favor Points: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Target | |||
Mod Bribe Amount: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Target | |||
Mod Detection Light: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Target | |||
Mod Detection Movement: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Target | |||
Mod Soul Gem Recharge: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Item | |||
Set Sweep Attack: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Weapon | |||
Apply Combat Hit Spell: 3 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 4 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Weapon | |||
- Target | |||
Apply Bashing Spell: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 4 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Target | |||
Apply Reanimate Spell: 3 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 4 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Spell | |||
- Target | |||
Set Boolean Graph Variable: 1 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 5 (maps to last 0 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
Mod Spell Casting Sound Event: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Spell | |||
Modify Pickpocket Chance: 3 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Target | |||
- Item | |||
Modify Detection Sneak Skill: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Target | |||
Modify Falling Damage: 1 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
Modify Lockpick Sweet Spot: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Locked Ref | |||
Modify Sell Prices: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Target | |||
Can Pickpocket Equipped Item: 3 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Target | |||
- Item | |||
Modify Lockpick level allowed: 1 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
Set Lockpick Starting Arc: 1 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
Set Progression Picking: 1 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
Make lockpicks unbreakable : 1 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
Modify Alchemy Effectiveness: 1 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
Apply Weapon Swing Spell: 3 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 4 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Attacker | |||
- Attacker Weapon | |||
Modify Commanded Actor Limit: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Spell | |||
Apply Sneaking Spell: 1 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 4 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
Modify Player Magic Slowdown: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Spell | |||
Modify Ward Magicka Absorption Pct: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Spell | |||
Modify Initial Ingredient Effects Learned: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Spell | |||
Purify Alchemy Ingredients: 1 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
Filter Activation: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Target | |||
Can dual cast spell: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Spell | |||
Modify Tempering Health: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Item | |||
Modify Enchantment Power: 3 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Enchantment | |||
- Item | |||
Modify Soul Pct Captured to Weapon: 3 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Target | |||
- Item | |||
Mod Soul Gem Enchanting: 3 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Enchantment | |||
- Item | |||
Mod # applied enchantments allowed: 1 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
Set Activate Label: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 6 (maps to last 0 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Target | |||
Mod Shout OK: 1 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
Mod Poison Dose Count: 3 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Weapon | |||
- Spell | |||
Should Apply Placed Item: 3 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Target | |||
- Item | |||
Modify Armor Rating: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Item | |||
Modify lockpicking crime chance: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Locked Ref | |||
Modify ingredients harvested: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Item | |||
Modify Spell Range (Target Loc.): 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Spell | |||
Modify Potions Created: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Spell | |||
Modify lockpicking key reward chance: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Locked Ref | |||
Allow Mount Actor: 2 extra args | |||
- unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) | |||
- Args: | |||
- Perk Owner | |||
- Target | |||
</pre> | |||
[[User:DavidJCobb|DavidJCobb]] ([[User talk:DavidJCobb|talk]]) 21:39, 15 August 2024 (EDT) | |||
:Many thanks for this info! I didn't know you were still around after all these years! More to the point, are you aware of how "Mod Target Damage Resistance" works? If we add a flat value, say +140, the armor rating of the target does not really increase by 140 points. What I found is that, if the gamesetting fArmorScalingFactor is 0.1 (meaning 0.1% of physical resistance for each armor rating point) and we add, say +0.14 through "Mod Target Damage Resistance", then the target armor effectively increases by 140. So my guess is that "Mod Target Damage Resistance" with "+x" will effectively increase the armor rating of the target by: x/(0.01*fArmorScalingFactor). Is this correct? (in other words, this perk entry directly affects physical resistance, not armor rating, but such effect can be interpreted as an increase in armor rating if we take the gamesetting fArmorScalingFactor into account, which represents the AR <-> physicalRes conversion factor). | |||
== Perk Entry Point - Activate Apply Spell == | |||
The "Apply Spell" feature for an activation perk has very odd behavior in my experience. I used it to apply a self-cast ability spell to an NPC, but when I check the NPC with More Informative Console, the spell is not applied or active, but the effect is. Further testing seems to indicate the spell exists briefly and then gets removed from the NPC, but the effect does not. Notably, the "Apply Bashing Spell" and "Apply Combat Hit Spell" entry points do not exhibit this behavior. Both the spell and effect are applied and active on the NPC when I use these entry points. The work-around for the activation entry point is to attach a Papyrus script to the activation perk and apply the spell to the activated NPC with the AddSpell function. |
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Perk Entry Point Discussion[edit source]
- Modify Player Magic Slowdown
- After extensive testing, I'm fairly certain this EP does nothing. I tested it a 5.0 multiplier, a 0.2 multiplier, an Add Value of 20, an Add Value of -20, and a Set Value of 1.0. It doesn't affect the player's casting or casting speed in any way, nor does it affect incoming magic spells in any way that I can tell. I also suspected that perhaps this had something to do with the modifying the player's abilities when a Slow Time effect was active, so I tested that, but again, no effects observed--player movement speed, casting speed, attack speed, etc.. all are unmodified even while Slow Time is active. I also discovered a mod called "Belua Sanguinare" that uses this perk entry, but as far as I can tell it's not having any effect there either. Egocarib (talk) 2013-08-23T22:51:43 (EDT)
- The entry point determines the speed of time for the player while under the effect of a Slow Time effect. The magnitude of the spell determines how fast time moves for the NPCs and the world, but the player slow down is different. The default is (as far as I can tell) 0.6. If that is modified to 1.0 (by adding 0.4 or simply setting it to 1.0), the player moves at normal speed. This can also be used to make the time move faster for NPCs and slower for the PC.Lofgren (talk) 2016-05-18T15:22:45 (EDT)
- After extensive testing, I'm fairly certain this EP does nothing. I tested it a 5.0 multiplier, a 0.2 multiplier, an Add Value of 20, an Add Value of -20, and a Set Value of 1.0. It doesn't affect the player's casting or casting speed in any way, nor does it affect incoming magic spells in any way that I can tell. I also suspected that perhaps this had something to do with the modifying the player's abilities when a Slow Time effect was active, so I tested that, but again, no effects observed--player movement speed, casting speed, attack speed, etc.. all are unmodified even while Slow Time is active. I also discovered a mod called "Belua Sanguinare" that uses this perk entry, but as far as I can tell it's not having any effect there either. Egocarib (talk) 2013-08-23T22:51:43 (EDT)
- Modify Bow Zoom
- Values beyond 1.0 don't appear to have an affect - the zoom distance is capped. I also noticed that certain values (like 0.80) produced buggy behavior, at least for me -- at that value the camera kept zooming in and out very rapidly and jerkily. 0.60 (the Eagle Eye perk value) and 1.0 worked fine, though. Egocarib (talk) 2013-11-22T20:40:56 (EST)
- Apply Reanimate Spell
- If a character has more than one perk with this entry point, only one spell will actually be applied to the target, as far as I can tell. Its usually the spell from the perk that they got first. Of note: this means that any mod that adds a perk using entry point this has the potential override 'Dark Souls'. This could be the case with the other 'Apply ___ Spell' entry points as well, but I haven't tested them --W Dog (talk) 2014-01-03T15:37:28 (EST)
I can confirm that apply weapon swing spell, sneak spell, combat hit spell, and all entry points that apply spells can only apply ONE spell at a time. However, there is a mod that 'fixes' this in scrambled bug fix. Though, doing so will often break a perk overhaul that is designed around this.
- Apply Combat Hit Spell
- Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but a script attached to the associated magic effect doesn't seem to fire when used with this perk entry.--Terra Nova2 (talk) 2015-02-22T12:31:11 (EST)
- So far it is working fine for me. I created a Constant Effect Ability, OnEffectStart is being applied on first hit, OnHit is being fired on hits after that. The biggest problem seems to be that both with delivery type Self and delivery type Contact, both GetTargetActor() and GetCasterActor() are the same - the actor the spell is on. I was hoping to be able to refer to the actor who did the attack for caster on Contact... but... --Darkconsole (talk) 2015-07-16T21:07:43 (EDT)
- It appears to work with Archery however it works in a weird way. In my testing the Spell is instantly applied to the combat target when an arrow is shot rather then when an arrow hits. This can depending on the effect cause an arrow to miss entirely when it should have hit (e.g Paralysis, Slow Effects or Applying Impulse Force). --Arocide (talk) 2015-04-30T06:39:46 (EDT)
- yeah that archery thing is a known bug in the game. If you get the paralyze talent at the top of the archery tree, the actor will fall down before the arrow even gets to it, often resulting in a miss at long distances (lolol). --Darkconsole (talk) 2015-07-16T21:07:43 (EDT)
- I am also seeing evidence that the note that it doesn't work on magic effects, is wrong. It appears to be working just fine when a spell hits the target too. --Darkconsole (talk) 2015-07-17T20:17:55 (EDT)
Bottom Lable for Add Activation Perk Entry[edit source]
This is currently broken in the 64 bit version of the Creation Kit. --Lisselli (talk) 2016-11-15T15:30:15 (EST)
Reverse engineering[edit source]
I wrote a script to dump the game's Perk Entry Point information from Skyrim Classic. Should be basically the same for SSE.
The way perk entry points work is that the game calls a varargs function, CalculatePerkData, which has two non-varargs arguments: the entry point to use (an enum) and the actor that owns the perk. The varargs arguments that follow are grouped into two sets: the first n varargs are the perk's normal arguments, and the nth argument and the next u - 1 arguments are special arguments. The precise operational definition of "special" is unknown, except that if any of them are null pointers, then the entire operation is aborted and no perk entry points are run.
The value of u is determined by an unidentified enum (unk0C
in the dump below) on the perk. In practice it's always 1 or 0, but there exists an unused enum value that maps to there being three special arguments.
My current (completely untested) hypothesis is that the perk arguments influence context-specific conditions. For example, GetSpellCastingPerk returns 1 if some spell has a specific perk, but it doesn't let you specify which spell to test; it tests whatever spell happens to be relevant at the moment. For a "Mod Spell Cost" entry point, that's the spell being cast. What other entry points have a "relevant spell?" I think it's either any perk with a Spell argument, or any perk with a Spell special argument. Testing would be needed to determine which is the case.
In summary: for each perk entry point below, all of the arguments listed are the "normal" argument, and when a perk is listed as having "1 args required," the last argument is also a special argument.
Calculate Weapon Damage: 3 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Weapon - Target Calculate My Critical Hit Chance: 3 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Weapon - Target Calculate My Critical Hit Damage: 3 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Weapon - Target Calculate Mine Explode Chance: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Item Adjust Limb Damage: 3 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Attacker - Attacker Weapon Adjust Book Skill Points: 1 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner Modify Recovered Health: 1 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner Get Should Attack: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Attacker Modify Buy Prices: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Target Add Leveled List On Death: 2 extra args - unk0C: 1 (maps to last 0 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Target Get Max Carry Weight: 1 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner Modify Addiction Chance: 1 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner Modify Addiction Duration: 1 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner Modify Positive Chem Duration: 1 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner Activate: 2 extra args - unk0C: 2 (maps to last 0 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Target Ignore Running During Detection: 1 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner Ignore Broken Lock: 1 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner Modify Enemy Critical Hit Chance: 3 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Weapon - Target Modify Sneak Attack Mult: 3 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Weapon - Target Modify Max Placeable Mines: 1 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner Modify Bow Zoom: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Weapon Modify Recover Arrow Chance: 1 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner Modify Skill Use: 1 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner Modify Telekinesis Distance: 1 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner Modify Telekinesis Damage Mult: 1 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner Modify Telekinesis Damage: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Target Mod Bashing Damage: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Target Mod Power Attack Stamina: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Weapon Mod Power Attack Damage: 3 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Weapon - Target Mod Spell Magnitude: 3 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Spell - Target Mod Spell Duration: 3 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Spell - Target Mod Secondary Value Weight: 3 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Spell - Target Mod Armor Weight: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Item Mod Incoming Stagger: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Attacker Mod Target Stagger: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Target Mod Attack Damage: 3 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Weapon - Target Mod Incoming Damage: 3 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Attacker - Attacker Weapon Mod Target Damage Resistance: 3 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Weapon - Target Mod Spell Cost: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Spell Mod Percent Blocked: 1 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner Mod Shield Deflect Arrow Chance: 1 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner Mod Incoming Spell Magnitude: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Spell Mod Incoming Spell Duration: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Spell Mod Player Intimidation: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Target Mod Player Reputation: 1 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner Mod Favor Points: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Target Mod Bribe Amount: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Target Mod Detection Light: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Target Mod Detection Movement: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Target Mod Soul Gem Recharge: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Item Set Sweep Attack: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Weapon Apply Combat Hit Spell: 3 extra args - unk0C: 4 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Weapon - Target Apply Bashing Spell: 2 extra args - unk0C: 4 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Target Apply Reanimate Spell: 3 extra args - unk0C: 4 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Spell - Target Set Boolean Graph Variable: 1 extra args - unk0C: 5 (maps to last 0 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner Mod Spell Casting Sound Event: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Spell Modify Pickpocket Chance: 3 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Target - Item Modify Detection Sneak Skill: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Target Modify Falling Damage: 1 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner Modify Lockpick Sweet Spot: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Locked Ref Modify Sell Prices: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Target Can Pickpocket Equipped Item: 3 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Target - Item Modify Lockpick level allowed: 1 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner Set Lockpick Starting Arc: 1 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner Set Progression Picking: 1 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner Make lockpicks unbreakable : 1 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner Modify Alchemy Effectiveness: 1 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner Apply Weapon Swing Spell: 3 extra args - unk0C: 4 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Attacker - Attacker Weapon Modify Commanded Actor Limit: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Spell Apply Sneaking Spell: 1 extra args - unk0C: 4 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner Modify Player Magic Slowdown: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Spell Modify Ward Magicka Absorption Pct: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Spell Modify Initial Ingredient Effects Learned: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Spell Purify Alchemy Ingredients: 1 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner Filter Activation: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Target Can dual cast spell: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Spell Modify Tempering Health: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Item Modify Enchantment Power: 3 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Enchantment - Item Modify Soul Pct Captured to Weapon: 3 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Target - Item Mod Soul Gem Enchanting: 3 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Enchantment - Item Mod # applied enchantments allowed: 1 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner Set Activate Label: 2 extra args - unk0C: 6 (maps to last 0 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Target Mod Shout OK: 1 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner Mod Poison Dose Count: 3 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Weapon - Spell Should Apply Placed Item: 3 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Target - Item Modify Armor Rating: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Item Modify lockpicking crime chance: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Locked Ref Modify ingredients harvested: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Item Modify Spell Range (Target Loc.): 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Spell Modify Potions Created: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Spell Modify lockpicking key reward chance: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Locked Ref Allow Mount Actor: 2 extra args - unk0C: 0 (maps to last 1 args required) - Args: - Perk Owner - Target
DavidJCobb (talk) 21:39, 15 August 2024 (EDT)
- Many thanks for this info! I didn't know you were still around after all these years! More to the point, are you aware of how "Mod Target Damage Resistance" works? If we add a flat value, say +140, the armor rating of the target does not really increase by 140 points. What I found is that, if the gamesetting fArmorScalingFactor is 0.1 (meaning 0.1% of physical resistance for each armor rating point) and we add, say +0.14 through "Mod Target Damage Resistance", then the target armor effectively increases by 140. So my guess is that "Mod Target Damage Resistance" with "+x" will effectively increase the armor rating of the target by: x/(0.01*fArmorScalingFactor). Is this correct? (in other words, this perk entry directly affects physical resistance, not armor rating, but such effect can be interpreted as an increase in armor rating if we take the gamesetting fArmorScalingFactor into account, which represents the AR <-> physicalRes conversion factor).
Perk Entry Point - Activate Apply Spell[edit source]
The "Apply Spell" feature for an activation perk has very odd behavior in my experience. I used it to apply a self-cast ability spell to an NPC, but when I check the NPC with More Informative Console, the spell is not applied or active, but the effect is. Further testing seems to indicate the spell exists briefly and then gets removed from the NPC, but the effect does not. Notably, the "Apply Bashing Spell" and "Apply Combat Hit Spell" entry points do not exhibit this behavior. Both the spell and effect are applied and active on the NPC when I use these entry points. The work-around for the activation entry point is to attach a Papyrus script to the activation perk and apply the spell to the activated NPC with the AddSpell function.