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Second, when you get to the technical part of the page, scripts and all, could you make it more orderly? Like, start with how you define an array, then tell how to define its value, then how do some other stuff... I mean, get from the simplest stuff to the most complicated. Right now I think there's everything in this article but I still don't understand it. Try to incorporate new things gradually. I know that this isn't a tutorial but still, many people are going to learn from this. [[User:Domius|Domius]] 14:16, 17 February 2012 (EST) | Second, when you get to the technical part of the page, scripts and all, could you make it more orderly? Like, start with how you define an array, then tell how to define its value, then how do some other stuff... I mean, get from the simplest stuff to the most complicated. Right now I think there's everything in this article but I still don't understand it. Try to incorporate new things gradually. I know that this isn't a tutorial but still, many people are going to learn from this. [[User:Domius|Domius]] 14:16, 17 February 2012 (EST) | ||
:'''Side-note - ''' Very good! Regarding the "''beginner's page intended for masters''", I must underline a false and confusing assertion : "''A rather simple formal representation: <data type> <identifier> <index_or_count>''"... It's an index, not a count which could be confused with the number of items (with standard compilers, using such "count" would provoke an array overflow or an in-game CTD). The sole place where one would imperatively use the "Count" would be for initializing the array, which should be underlined outside of the formalization itself. Of course some algorithm could count the number of items and then use that number to calculate an index, or use some variable named "Count" for whatever purpose, but that's not the point : we should keep in mind that it's essentially an index and that's it, nothing to do with counting anything.. e.g. when you have a seat number in the Magic Plane (the array), you just go there directly and sit, there's no counting nor "count" involved : you don't care about such a "count" number since you have your ticket (your own index). I guess that the original text wanted to insinuate that one must use the count so as to initialize the Array ; or that an array is '''ordered''', meaning that the last index will always be (number of items -1) or (length of Array - 1), both representing the "Count - 1" (since indexes begin at 0). Actually, when talking about Arrays, the term "Count" is more understandable as being the length of the array, its number of indexes : the number of seats in the Magic Plane. The doc should be careful when addressing beginners : it should not insinuate anything as if some foreknowledge of what it's trying to explain was actually required. It should state it clearly, especially within its formalization. --[[User:HawkFest|HawkFest]] ([[User talk:HawkFest|talk]]) 2013-02-10T08:54:00 (EST) | :'''Side-note - ''' Very good! Regarding the "''beginner's page intended for masters''", I must underline a false and confusing assertion : "''A rather simple formal representation: <data type> <identifier> <index_or_count>''"... It's an index, not a count which could be confused with the number of items (with standard compilers, using such "count" would provoke an array overflow or an in-game CTD). The sole place where one would imperatively use the "Count" would be for initializing the array, which should be underlined outside of the formalization itself. Of course some algorithm could count the number of items and then use that number to calculate an index, or use some variable named "Count" for whatever purpose like incremented within a While loop for traversing the array, but that's not the point : we should keep in mind that it's essentially an index and that's it, nothing to do with counting anything.. e.g. when you have a seat number in the Magic Plane (the array), you just go there directly and sit, there's no counting nor "count" involved : you don't care about such a "count" number since you have your ticket (your own index). I guess that the original text wanted to insinuate that one must use the count so as to initialize the Array ; or that an array is '''ordered''', meaning that the last index will always be (number of items -1) or (length of Array - 1), both representing the "Count - 1" (since indexes begin at 0). Actually, when talking about Arrays, the term "Count" is more understandable as being the length of the array, its number of indexes : the number of seats in the Magic Plane. The doc should be careful when addressing beginners : it should not insinuate anything as if some foreknowledge of what it's trying to explain was actually required. It should state it clearly, especially within its formalization. --[[User:HawkFest|HawkFest]] ([[User talk:HawkFest|talk]]) 2013-02-10T08:54:00 (EST) | ||
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